I've upgraded from Opera 9.2x to 9.52, and after discovering that it accidentally forgot some of my preferences, I've also been bugged by the address bar.

It keeps trying to auto-complete/giving me suggestions on typed-in address, even listing the ones in my bookmarks.

Previosly, I've set it to not suggest nothing, and it worked as expected.

Tools-> Preferences -> Hystory, I've already disabled this, both number of addresses and visited pages, and it still keeps bugging me. Listing my bookmarks.

How do I stop this?

Current version:
Version 9.52
Build 10108
Platform Win32

While someone here might be able to help you.  I think the Opera support forums might be a appropriate place to ask.

I've posted here after a lot of googling, includiing their forum, and their irc channel.

However, after a lot more googling, I've discovered that it's not possible to disable this. The only way to do is by disabling "Auto Drop Down" in the settings, that disables completly the functionalty to search typed-in urls/bookmarks/search.

This sounds like the piece of shit Awful Bar in FF3 that is keeping me from upgrading.  I will probably write an extension to completely mimic the old behavior at some point, but I'm hoping the devs wise up and listen to the vast number of users who want the built-in option to use the old functionality.

 

morbiuswilters:

I will probably write an extension to completely mimic the old behavior at some point, but I'm hoping the devs wise up and listen to the vast number of users who want the built-in option to use the old functionality.

Or, you could just google "disable firefox awesome bar" and find this. Seems to work pretty well.

Jeff S:

 

morbiuswilters:

I will probably write an extension to completely mimic the old behavior at some point, but I'm hoping the devs wise up and listen to the vast number of users who want the built-in option to use the old functionality.

Or, you could just google "disable firefox awesome bar" and find this. Seems to work pretty well.

That only results in two options:

1. Suppress the suggestions altogether by tweaking the about:config values (which is what I've done)
2. Install an add-on that makes the results a single line each but doesn't change the search algorithm

Not exactly the greatest set of choices. Why can't we get an option to go back to the FF2-style?

bstorer:

That only results in two options:

1. Suppress the suggestions altogether by tweaking the about:config values (which is what I've done)
2. Install an add-on that makes the results a single line each but doesn't change the search algorithm

Not exactly the greatest set of choices. Why can't we get an option to go back to the FF2-style?

Are options 2 and 1 mutually exclusive?   Could you install oldbar and do the about:config tweaks (most are described here) ?  Wouldn't that pretty much get you where you were in FF2?   

I admit that I like the "awesome" bar, so I haven't spent too much time trying all these options.

Jeff S:

Are options 2 and 1 mutually exclusive?   Could you install oldbar and do the about:config tweaks (most are described here) ?  Wouldn't that pretty much get you where you were in FF2?   

I admit that I like the "awesome" bar, so I haven't spent too much time trying all these options.

The problem is that the retarded search algo searches the whole URL.  So if I want to go to php.net/blah in FF2, I just start typing "ph" and it auto-completes most of it.  With FF3 (using all of those tweaks), it will pick up pages like www.facebook.com/friends.php or whatever, because it has php somewhere in the URL. 

mauricio:

Tools-> Preferences -> Hystory, I've already disabled this, both number of addresses and visited pages, and it still keeps bugging me. Listing my bookmarks.

How do I stop this?

Go to opera:config, stick "Addressbar Content Search" in the search bar, untick (it's in "User Prefs").

morbiuswilters:

The problem is that the retarded search algo searches the whole URL.  So if I want to go to php.net/blah in FF2, I just start typing "ph" and it auto-completes most of it.  With FF3 (using all of those tweaks), it will pick up pages like www.facebook.com/friends.php or whatever, because it has php somewhere in the URL. 

Ah ... thanks for clarifying ....  Well, I say go for it, write an extension, sounds like there's a nice demand for one.

morbiuswilters:

The problem is that the retarded search algo searches the whole URL.  So if I want to go to php.net/blah in FF2, I just start typing "ph" and it auto-completes most of it.  With FF3 (using all of those tweaks), it will pick up pages like www.facebook.com/friends.php or whatever, because it has php somewhere in the URL. 

Exactly. If I type "tu", I'm not looking for YouTube or iTunes, I'm probably looking for Tubgirl or some tutu fetish site.

bstorer:

If I type "tu", I'm not looking for YouTube or iTunes, I'm probably looking for Tubgirl or some tutu fetish site.

To be fair, I think YouTube and iTunes can both sufficiently satisfy your needs. 

morbiuswilters:

The problem is that the retarded search algo searches the whole URL.  So if I want to go to php.net/blah in FF2, I just start typing "ph" and it auto-completes most of it.  With FF3 (using all of those tweaks), it will pick up pages like www.facebook.com/friends.php or whatever, because it has php somewhere in the URL. 

Of course you're absolutely right that typing "c" and getting back all previously visted sites ending in ".com" is a special form of absolute stupidity, but the thing has to learn a little, and now I'm liking it plenty. It stopped matching .com soon enough.

I used to be very annoyed that browsers didn't search inside urls when I couldn't remember exactly how the url started. The fact it looks in page titles as well is also awesome enough, but it looks like it prioritizes that over urls, which I dislike.

It's a matter of habit, as well. Instead of typing "ph", you'd get used to typing something from the unique bits of the URL and title. You get used to that real quicklike, and curse at IE when you don't remember how some url or other started.

 

dhromed:

Of course you're absolutely right that typing "c" and getting back all previously visted sites ending in ".com" is a special form of absolute stupidity, but the thing has to learn a little, and now I'm liking it plenty. It stopped matching .com soon enough.

I used to be very annoyed that browsers didn't search inside urls when I couldn't remember exactly how the url started. The fact it looks in page titles as well is also awesome enough, but it looks like it prioritizes that over urls, which I dislike.

It's a matter of habit, as well. Instead of typing "ph", you'd get used to typing something from the unique bits of the URL and title. You get used to that real quicklike, and curse at IE when you don't remember how some url or other started.

However, the URLs I visit might have lots of differing parts inside, but will almost all share a common domain.  I'm used to being able to hit any of my common sites within 2 keystrokes.  It's cool if people like it, but a lot of people are also asking for the FF2 behavior back and so far the devs are not budging.  I will stick with FF2 until the option is there, or even move to IE8 if the Mozilla devs don't start listening to the community. 

morbiuswilters:

However, the URLs I visit might have lots of differing parts inside, but will almost all share a common domain.  I'm used to being able to hit any of my common sites within 2 keystrokes.

 

Stop trying to find your sites by typing "feti" and expecting them to come up.  You need to type the things that are different about the sites.  "Podo", "Ocul", "Grao", and "Epro" should cover the ones you're into I think...

morbiuswilters:

I'm used to being able to hit any of my common sites within 2 keystrokes.

So am I. I'm still able to. So are you, with a slight change of habit.

dhromed:

So am I. I'm still able to. So are you, with a slight change of habit.

Somehow I doubt that it will get much easier.  And asking a user to change their habits to adapt to a new UI that provides no benefit for that user over the old UI is bad software design.  It worked before, it should still work.  I can see trying to make improvements, but the old behavior needs to be an option, even if it is not the default.  Many other people feel the same way.

morbiuswilters:

Somehow I doubt that it will get much easier.  And asking a user to change their habits to adapt to a new UI that provides no benefit for that user over the old UI is bad software design.  It worked before, it should still work.  I can see trying to make improvements, but the old behavior needs to be an option, even if it is not the default.  Many other people feel the same way.

 

But there is a benefit.  It matches more URL's, and it learns what works for you.  If you want ESPN.com, and type "es", maybe initially ESPN.com is the 3rd in the list, but if you select it, the next time you type "es" it will bring you right to ESPN.COM.  Now, you have your two-keystroke match and it wasn't even really that hard.  And, if you want, you have the option of having it search your bookmarks, plus page titles and other things like that.  And if you don't remember how an URL starts (is it "mail.yahoo.com" or "yahoo.com/mail" or "www.yahoo.com/mail"?) you can now match URL's without worrying about that (just type "yahoo").  By all accounts, that sounds like an improvement to me.   

I can understand that people can be set in their ways and don't like change, but surely you must understand that they didn't just randomly change the UI without adding additional features/benefits.

I think it's kind of a silly reason not to move to a software product that is faster and much more stable than the predecessor.  Did you give it a shot for any extended period of time?  (firefox portable is a nice way to give it a test run)

Jeff S:

I can understand that people can be set in their ways and don't like change, but surely you must understand that they didn't just randomly change the UI without adding additional features/benefits.

Really?! It's unlikely that they changed the interface without adding anything worthwhile? Are you new to this site?

bstorer:

Really?! It's unlikely that they changed the interface without adding anything worthwhile? Are you new to this site?

 

???

They did add "worthwhile things" as already explained clearly in this thread. 

 

Jeff S:

They did add "worthwhile things" as already explained clearly in this thread. 

That's begging the question. I don't see anything worthwhile about not being sure which result will come up first if I type "tu" into my address bar.

Jeff S:

It matches more URL's, and it learns what works for you.

That's the problem -- I want it to match the URLs that start with whatever I'm typing, not just ones that contain part of it.  Machine learning is often tedious and flawed, too, and I don't see the reason I should have to train my fucking browser how to auto-complete a URL.  It's like training your car's gas pedal to make the car go faster.  Plus, you have to retrain it every time you clear your personal info.

bstorer:

Jeff S:

They did add "worthwhile things" as already explained clearly in this thread. 

That's begging the question. I don't see anything worthwhile about not being sure which result will come up first if I type "tu" into my address bar.

 

I guess you missed my post that described the new features. Just because you don't like those new features doesn't mean that new features weren't added.