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Last post 03-18-2007 4:09 AM by Cap'n Steve. 38 replies.
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  • 03-14-2007 1:55 PM

    • rbowes
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    Dead, from second hand smoke

    So I'm sure most have you have opened up computers and looked at years of caked dust on the inside and wondered how the computer even manages to work. Well, this is much worse.

    I was called by a friend's mother, who's 70 years old, crippled (so she doesn't go out), living in a small apartment, and a chain smoker. She had a computer for a couple years, and it suddenly stopped working. It was plugged in and all the usual stuff, so I figured I'd give it a good cleaning. Well, it was dark, so I couldn't see anything obvious. I took off the case, took it outside (because it smelled so bad), and blew (with my mouth -- no canned air handy) and shook it upside down, and pretty much all the stuff you shouldn't do. I took it back in, and it still didn't work. The warranty has expired, so I offered to take it home to see if I could troubleshoot it.

    I brought it into a lighted area and, to my horror, even after the half-assed cleaning I gave it, and only being a couple years old, this is what the innards looked like:


     

     

     

     

    This was the first computer I've ever personally seen that's died of second hand smoke.
     

  • 03-14-2007 2:09 PM In reply to

    Re: Dead, from second hand smoke

    Wow. I can smell the smoke from here! That's nasty!
  • 03-14-2007 2:10 PM In reply to

    • RayS
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    Re: Dead, from second hand smoke

    That's just plain nasty. I don't even want to know what that stuff is.

    For the grossout factor though, I still think that there's nothing as bad as a cat owner. The smell of that PC when I opened it up just blew  me across the room, and still haunts me to this day.

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  • 03-14-2007 2:23 PM In reply to

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    Just imagine what the inside of her lungs looks like!
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  • 03-14-2007 2:48 PM In reply to

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    I live with two chainsmoking women, five cats, a dog, and a lot of expensive electronics.  I have to replace things frequently.
  • 03-14-2007 3:10 PM In reply to

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    Just remember, those smokers INSIST it's their right to subject you to this STUFF.

     

    Damn, now there's ink on my screen....
  • 03-14-2007 3:11 PM In reply to

    • kimos
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    Re: Dead, from second hand smoke

    RayS:

    For the grossout factor though, I still think that there's nothing as bad as a cat owner. The smell of that PC when I opened it up just blew  me across the room, and still haunts me to this day.

    I acquired a cat in the past year and was really worried about what the inside of my PC would look like when I took it apart to clean it. I can't say there was a smell, but there was enough dusty cat hair stuck in the various fans and heat sinks that I could have used it to create a whole new grey-ish zombie cat...
     

  • 03-14-2007 3:33 PM In reply to

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    The smell on those sorts of chain smokers' PCs is the worst part.  There have been computers that I've worked on that I've literally had to open a nearby window to tolerate.  A clothespin to the nose or copious amounts of air freshener were also sometimes called for.
  • 03-14-2007 3:53 PM In reply to

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    rbowes:
    This was the first computer I've ever personally seen that's died of second hand smoke.


    kimos:
    RayS:

    For the grossout factor though, I still think that there's nothing as bad as a cat owner. The smell of that PC when I opened it up just blew  me across the room, and still haunts me to this day.

    I acquired a cat in the past year and was really worried about what the inside of my PC would look like when I took it apart to clean it. I can't say there was a smell, but there was enough dusty cat hair stuck in the various fans and heat sinks that I could have used it to create a whole new grey-ish zombie cat...

    I can do you both one better; the combination of the two.

    The computer was still quite functional, it just had one failing HDD, another HDD with a virus, and Windows 95. Was able to fix 2 out of the 3. :)

    Let's just say that I can never eat Cheetos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheetos) again, because that's what it smelled like.

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  • 03-14-2007 4:20 PM In reply to

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    That's freaking nasty.

     In high school I worked summers for a guy who wholesaled PCs refurbed from public schools. We'd go into these schools, pull the old crap out, put the new crap in, clean up the old crap, and sell it for $100-200. (My boss made a killing doing this by the way, and probably would have doubled his money if he was only slightly organized.)

     Anyway, you can imagine what public elementary school computers are like. Most of them have bubble gum or other sticky, miscellaneous candy goo on them. Most time we just grab the box nimbly avoiding said goo and chuck it on to the truck.

     One time, however, one of our loyal mexican workers went to pick one up and beatles started crawling out of it. He dropped the box on the ground. Being used to putting up with carelessness from those guys, I immediately turned around about to b8tch somebody out. The guy was screaming "cucaracha!" (A hilarious memory as I look back on it, but at the time I was thoroughly revolted.)

    I took my guys out of there and we never went back to that room. That teacher was furious, caught up with me the next day while we were doing other rooms in the building, thinking she was going to spring a trap on me: "I'll tell the principal!" "I'll tell your boss!" I snapped on her and read her the riot act about what a GD slob she was, how she was endangering the health of not only me and my workers, but also DOZENS of tiny children who certainly didn't deserve it either. Finally she started crying...good times.

  • 03-14-2007 4:42 PM In reply to

    • Rick
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    Re: Dead, from second hand smoke

    joe.edwards@imaginuity.com:
    I live with two chainsmoking women, five cats, a dog, and a lot of expensive electronics.  I have to replace things frequently.

    Maybe you are replacing the wrong things. 

  • 03-14-2007 4:55 PM In reply to

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    Rick:

    joe.edwards@imaginuity.com:
    I live with two chainsmoking women, five cats, a dog, and a lot of expensive electronics.  I have to replace things frequently.

    Maybe you are replacing the wrong things. 

     quoted for freaking truth!
     

  • 03-14-2007 5:05 PM In reply to

    • rbowes
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    savar:

     In high school I worked summers for a guy who wholesaled PCs refurbed from public schools.

     

    That reminds me, I totally missed the end of the story!

    A friend of mine was collecting computers for charity, salvaging parts and whatnot. Because this computer was shot, but there were probably salvageable parts in it, I told him he could have it. I left it in front of his house, and that's the last time I saw it. I really should find out if he managed to salvage any usable parts from it!


     

  • 03-14-2007 6:06 PM In reply to

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    Is that some sort of fungus growing in the fan?
  • 03-14-2007 6:28 PM In reply to

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    savar:

    and beatles started crawling out of it. He dropped the box on the ground.

    Because they told him to "let it be"? =]

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  • 03-14-2007 6:45 PM In reply to

    • aikii
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    Re: Dead, from second hand smoke

    Well, why not, some people have their dead pets stuffed. And how convenient, this PC comes dead AND stuffed already.
  • 03-14-2007 7:20 PM In reply to

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    I used to work for a company that used standard desktop PCs in sealed enclosures as controllers for process control equipment in (primarily) automobile factories and steel mills. While the enclosures were well sealed and met all the applicable NEMA standards, there were always cases where the customer would leave the door open for days at a time, or simply never close them up in the first place.

    I've seen computers that had transitioned gradually from being air-cooled to being oil-coooled, by virtue of the oil vapor condensing out of the air and filling the entire case . I've also seen at least one computer that was entirely filled with lint from a textile operation of some sort - when I opened up the case, you couldn't see anything inside it at all - it just looked like a featureless gray blob.

     I've also seen failures due to people welding on the enclosure and accidentally switching the "hot" and ground leads on the welder. Basically, the insulation melted off every single wire in the entire cabinet, and pooled in the bottom as a multicolored puddle of vinyl.

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  • 03-14-2007 8:49 PM In reply to

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    Re: Dead, from second hand smoke

    By the way, the real WTF is that according to the pictures' timestamp, cleaning up that PC was your new years eve party :)
  • 03-14-2007 9:02 PM In reply to

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    As a former (heavy) smoker, and current (multiple) pet owner, I think I can add to this thread in a non-trivial way.

    Cigarette smoke is a pervasive, insidious filth creator. When my wife and I both smoked, inside, the smoke residue would combine with dust in the air to make a layer of gummy crap that covered every surface. On hard surfaces, like ceiling fan blades, you could use a solvent or just plain soap, water and elbow grease to eventually clean the surface. On fabric and other soft surfaces, you had to wash several times to get rid of the smell.

    Now we have several cats and dogs. We are 'animal people,' so getting rid of them is not on the menu. (If you could easily 'get rid' of animals, you wouldn't collect so many in the first place!) But we pay a price, that we do. In the context of computers, so many animals contribute dander and lots of fine hair, which collect around the fan of the computer. Everything is OK if you remember to wipe it off the fan grill every once in a while, and vacuum inside every 6 months to a year.

    I can say this as a former smoker: smokers have no idea how badly they smell. When I was smoking, I thought I could get away with sneaking a cigarette inside and my non-smoking roommate would never know. Totally wrong. A non-smoking nose can notice it very easily.
     

  • 03-15-2007 12:40 AM In reply to

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    unklegwar:
    Just remember, those smokers INSIST it's their right to subject you to this STUFF.

    Well, for the record, as a nonsmoker I think it's their right to smoke, too.  I don't want anyone else getting on my case for my personal habits.  Luckily none of mine are on the public chopping block right now, but it doesn't change the principle that we should all leave each other alone.  (And I think smokers are doing that - they certainly get on my nerves less often than those who are so vocal about hating them.)

  • 03-15-2007 3:31 AM In reply to

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    Loverly. What I'd like to see is the CPU fan. Nearly every case I open these days has an air-proof CPU cooler. That one must have been pretty solidly caked.

    Oh, and how to fix the smoking problem? Legislate that all tobacco must be de-nicotined. Those souls that want to smoke "For the taste"(WT...) will be unaffected. Those enslaved to one of the most addictive substances known will have to use much less toxic lozenges, patches or gum.

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  • 03-15-2007 5:27 AM In reply to

    • RayS
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    dml:

    unklegwar:
    Just remember, those smokers INSIST it's their right to subject you to this STUFF.

    Well, for the record, as a nonsmoker I think it's their right to smoke, too.  I don't want anyone else getting on my case for my personal habits.  Luckily none of mine are on the public chopping block right now, but it doesn't change the principle that we should all leave each other alone.  (And I think smokers are doing that - they certainly get on my nerves less often than those who are so vocal about hating them.)

    I agree that they have a right to smoke. It's an entirely stupid thing to do but hey, there's no law against being stupid. However, that right to smoke should stop when it involves  spewing that crap over me.

    Likewise it's my right to throw as much mud as I want to, but that right has to end when I start throwing mud in a public place and hitting people with it. And having mud on you isn't even as dangerous as breathing that evil stuff into your lungs.

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  • 03-15-2007 5:35 AM In reply to

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    I used to work for a company that supplied and maintained computers for veterinary practices - just don't ask... and if a mouse (of the PC kind!) was playing up taking the ball out to clean inside was not a sensible option!

    But worse still was a guy I used to work with who did maintenance on electronic boxes fixed on the underside of Australian trains. These boxes were hermetically sealed, but it seems that when kangaroos stray on the line in front of a fast moving train the remains can force themselves through the seals... what a lovely job cleaning those was!
     

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  • 03-15-2007 6:02 AM In reply to

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    I used to put computers into hairdressers... those things would be FULL of hair!


     

  • 03-15-2007 8:19 AM In reply to

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    I killed a TV like that.
  • 03-15-2007 8:27 AM In reply to

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